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Lee Odden

Misguided SEO Advice

Lee Odden on Dec 13th, 2005     SEO

I received an inquiry this morning that really was typical of what I’ve been hearing from really small companies looking into SEO that get their information from sources that have little to do with SEO. I hope it’s not too indicative of what web developers and hosting companies advise their clients on search engine optimization.  So many small businesses are challenged to find a reliable source of information on SEO. It’s discouraging when they get bad information that doesn’t work and then get a bad impression of SEO as a tactic.

The inquiry:

Wondering if you can point me in the right direction here or if you have any other sources that might work better. I’ve been working on learning more about getting noticed online. My webhost suggested we buy some additional URL’s and write up a landing page for each with a somewhat repetitive description that forwards right to the home page without being seen.

Lee Odden

Interview with Rand Fishkin of SEOmoz

Lee Odden on Dec 12th, 2005     Interviews, Search Industry News, Search Marketing, SEO, Social Bookmarking, Spotlight on Search

Spotlight on Search – Rand Fishkin

The next interview for Spotlight on Search is with Rand Fishkin of SEOmoz. Two interviews in one day? Well, the repsonse to my queries to interviewees has been fantastic. Plus, Rand has received some excellent attention in the media recently.

First, congratulations on the Newsweek article and for getting Slashdotted, twice in such a short period of time!

I remember reading in the Search Engine Watch forums a while back about how you were considering attending the Search Engine Strategies conference. It seemed shortly after you were explaining Google patents with Dr. Garcia on a SES panel. The growth of your visibility and involvement in the industry is impressive.

Lee: Please describe your background and how did you get involved with search engine optimization?

Lee Odden

Interview with Barry Schwartz (RustyBrick) of Search Engine Roundtable

Lee Odden on Dec 12th, 2005     Blogging News, Interviews, Search Industry News, SEO

Spotlight on Search – Barry Schwartz

Here’s the next installement in the series of Monday interviews called "Spotlight on Search". Today’s interview is with Barry Schwartz, who runs a web application development business called RustyBrick, edits and writes the Search Engine Roundtable blog, serves as moderator on numerous forums, provides editorial coverage and speaks at Search Marketing conferences AND is now running a new forum.

Lee: Tell us about your background and your business, RustyBrick

Barry:  RustyBrick is a Web development firm my twin brother and I started back in high school, actually.  My brother is the tech side of the business and I am the business side.  We have 8 employees right now, looking to hire two to three more PHP/MySQL developers.  So if you know any coders willing to work in the New York area, please send them my way.

Lee Odden

Search Engine News Blog

Lee Odden on Dec 11th, 2005     Blogging News, Search Industry News, Search Marketing, SEO

When I first started Online Marketing Blog in Dec 2003, it was mostly a reblog. I would post links to articles I found interesting on the web. I would also add comments to those links.  When I transferred the blog away from blogspot.com hosting to it’s own domain name and WordPress, I also stopped posting news links for the most part and moved those sorts of posts to a blog I was using to develop article ideas. I’ve had Thomas update the layout of that blog and it is now called Search Marketing News.

Lee Odden

SES Chicago and Week Wrap Up

Lee Odden on Dec 9th, 2005     Marketing PR Conferences, Search Engine Strategies, Search Industry News

It’s been a pretty amazing week. Chicago SES Sunday through Wed and Thursday my 300C was rear ended by an Isuzu Trooper – ugh. Today I’m still catching up. We’re getting more inquiries for new business now than every before. That’s the idea, right?

My situation this week is nothing compared to what Barry had to go through to get home. Here’s Barry’s wrap up of all the posts he, Ben and Chris covered this week. It’s amazing what those guys can get done.

I heard from several people that I missed a great party Wed night at SES in Chicago that was sponsored by WebmasterRadio.fm, Bruce Clay, TrueLocal and NY Times held at Buddy Guy’s Legend Jazz Club in Chicago. Ward Tongen has a photo on his moblog. None of the search engines or other vendors were planning an overall party for the conference, so Brandy from WebmasterRadio.fm set it up on the fly – that’s amazing.

Lee Odden

Yahoolicious! Yahoo Buys Del.icio.us

Lee Odden on Dec 9th, 2005     Online Marketing

Check this out! Yahoo Buys Del.icio.us 

We’re proud to announce that del.icio.us has joined the Yahoo! family.  Together we’ll continue to improve how people discover, remember and share on the Internet, with a big emphasis on the power of community.  We’re excited to be working with the Yahoo! Search team – they definitely get social systems and their potential to change the web. (We’re also excited to be joining our fraternal twin Flickr!)

via BoingBoing 

Here’s the post on the Yahoo Search Blog

Tags: Yahoo delicious, Yahoo, del.cio.us

Lee Odden

SES Chicago: Q&A on Links with the Search Engines

Lee Odden on Dec 7th, 2005     Ask, Google, Link Building, Marketing PR Conferences, Search Engine Strategies, Search Industry News, SEO, Yahoo

I had some distractions earlier in the day and did not get to blog any of the pre-lunch sessions. So here’s the first post-lunch session:  Links Q/A with Search Engines moderated Detlev Johnson from PositionTech.  This session is a combination of short presenations followed up with Questions and Answers.

Speakers include:  Kaushal Kurapati – Ask Jeeves, Charles Martin – Google, Tim Mayer – Yahoo, Ramez Naam – MSN.

Detlev announces a part this evening sponsored by WebmasterRadio, Bruce Clay, PositionTech, TrueLocal and NY Times.  This is kind of funny: Tim Mayer takes a photo from the podium of Barry Schwartz blogging from the front row.

First up was Kaushal Kurapati from Ask Jeeves to talk about how links work with Ask Jeeves.

Links from high quality pages are best.

Lee Odden

DMA Beefs up Membership with Andrew Wetzler

Lee Odden on Dec 7th, 2005     DMA, Search Industry News

Since I’m on the DMA Search Engine Marketing Council, I thought I’d post this release that just went out.   The Search Engine Marketing Council (SEMC) of the DMA was previously known as the Association of Interactive Marketing (AIM). Lots of acronyms, but also lots of good work.

MOREVISIBILITY PRESIDENT ANDREW WETZLER APPOINTED TO MEMBERSHIP CHAIR, DMA SEMC COUNCIL

New York, NY, December 7, 2005 – The Direct Marketing Association (DMA) announced today it has appointed Andrew Wetzler, president and co-founder of MoreVisibility, membership chair of its Search Engine Marketing Council (SEMC).

Lee Odden

SES Chicago Day 2 Wrap Up

Lee Odden on Dec 7th, 2005     Blog Marketing, Blogging News, Marketing PR Conferences, Online PR, RSS, Search Engine Strategies, Search Industry News, Search Marketing, SEO

This is the first SES conference I’ve been to where there were no large scale events sponsored by any of the major search engines. There are smaller, invite-only gatherings, but they only involve a small number of attendees. 

I opted to check out some of the Chicago steak houses recommended to me by Jolina, one our Public Relations rockstars, who is from the area.

On Sunday, Andy from WebCertain and I first checked out Harry Caray’s.  This place is definitely a Chicago tradition in sports bars. Unfortunatley, their interpretation of what "medium" means was very different than what Andy and I had in mind. Service was excellent though.

Lee Odden

SES Chicago: RSS Blogs and Search Marketing Panel

Lee Odden on Dec 7th, 2005     Blog Marketing, Marketing PR Conferences, RSS, Search Engine Strategies, Search Industry News

The last session I attended on day two of the Chicago Search Engine Strategies conference was RSS Blogs and Search Marketing moderated by Danny Sullivan.

Speakers included: Dick Costolo – FeedBurner, Nan Dawkins – RedBoots Consulting, Greg Jarboe – SEO-PR, Stephan Spencer – Netconcepts, Amanda Watlington – Searching for Profit

First up was Amanda Watlington:

Blogs Good and Evil
Shows quotes from
BusinessWeek: Blogs Can Change your Business
Forbes: Attack of the Blogs

Good:
Offer platform for businesses to provide a more personal method of communication.
Can provide feedback through comments and trackbacks
Advertising opportunity

Evil:
Can put out negative information

Blogs Continue Grow
70,000 per day as of Oct.
13% updated weekly
1.2m posts per day

Blogs are a threat to mainstream media

Lee Odden

SES Chicago: SEM via Communities, Wikipedia & Tagging

Lee Odden on Dec 6th, 2005     Search Industry News, Search Marketing, SEO, Social Bookmarking

More Search Engine Strategies goodness from Chicago: SEM via Communities, Wikipedia & Tagging

Moderated by Danny SUllivan.  Speakers included: Jeff Watts – National Instruments, Andy Hagans – Text Link Ads, Aaron Wall – SEOBook, Jim Boykin – WeBuildPages

First up was Jeff Watts of National Instruments.  

National Instruments approach to community:

Traffic = Community + Search + Content

Very focused on content development. NI looks at community as a way to find out what people are looking for relevant to their web site.

Any conversation about community needs to start about buzz. Need to make sure you a part of the conversation. Alludes to Cluetrain:  "The conversation is going to take place, the issue is whether you choose to take part or not."

Lee Odden

SES Chicago Keynote with Danny Sullivan

Lee Odden on Dec 6th, 2005     Search Engine Strategies, Search Industry News, Search Marketing, SEO

Keynote Day 2 of Search Engine Strategies with Danny Sullivan

Danny says keynotes should be inspiring.

How are we (search marketers) viewed? 
Shows photo of guy wearing spam shirt and drinking a beer.

Shows quotes from various sources characterizing SEOs as:  Worthless, shady, criminals, cockroaches

Who to blame?  

Blach Hats:
Blog spamming, keyword stuffing, content thieves, cloaking

But consider some contradictions:

  • Some news sources are allowed to cloak
  • Large respected pubs selling links
  • Web site of respected blog software maker hosting spam pages

White Hats:
Algorithm ingnorant, simple tips overselling, industry best practices

Consider:  

  • Simple tips aren’t simple to people who don’t know
  • Working with designers and others to do content SEO is a skill

Organics
Black arts dabbling, unldear line waslking, low margin grubbing, non paid search practitioners

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