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	<title>Comments on: ONLINE POKER or The Marketing Folly of Using Highly Popular Yet Unrelated Keywords to Drive Online Traffic</title>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/09/online-poker-or-the-marketing-folly-of-using-highly-popular-yet-unrelated-keywords-to-drive-online-traffic/#comment-220580</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick, you&#039;re making an apples to oranges comparison using PPC when the blog post is clearly about SEO. 

I just checked GA and 9,190 unique phrases brought visitors to this blog in the past 30 days with more than a few unusual queries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick, you&#8217;re making an apples to oranges comparison using PPC when the blog post is clearly about SEO. </p>
<p>I just checked GA and 9,190 unique phrases brought visitors to this blog in the past 30 days with more than a few unusual queries.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your link was in the daily email I get, keywords “porn seo.” &quot;

- Too funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your link was in the daily email I get, keywords “porn seo.” &#8221;</p>
<p>- Too funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Konopka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian Konopka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can tell you this post &quot;ranks&quot; for Google Alerts today. Your link was in the daily email I get, keywords &quot;porn seo.&quot; Well written, btw.

Damian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can tell you this post &#8220;ranks&#8221; for Google Alerts today. Your link was in the daily email I get, keywords &#8220;porn seo.&#8221; Well written, btw.</p>
<p>Damian</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/09/online-poker-or-the-marketing-folly-of-using-highly-popular-yet-unrelated-keywords-to-drive-online-traffic/#comment-216682</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No legitmate or experienced company marketer would reasonably justify such an approach.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with you Lee.  

Are television commercials directly related to the show during which they appear?  Do outdoor billboards have anything to with where they appear, or what you, as the observer, are currently doing? No... 

&quot;What’s short sighted you say? Well, getting a large number of conversions on irrelevant, but high demand keywords usually means a customer service nightmare when products are delivered and they’re not what the customer thought they’d be.&quot;

I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re point is here.  Unless you&#039;re being completely misleading with your offering, you shouldn&#039;t have a problem.  

Many commercials that I watch on TV are not relevant to the show I&#039;m watching.  Say, for example, I&#039;m watching The Colbert Report and I see a commercial for Geico car insurance -- If I happen to be in the need for car insurance, I may engage with the ad.  If not, I&#039;ll ignore it.

Likewise, if Geico setup an Adwords campaign and &quot;Tonight Show&quot; was one of their keywords - regardless of whether or not it&#039;s what a user was searching for - if it fulfilled a purpose and the user is satisfied, then I don&#039;t see the problem.  

&quot;The cost of returns and handling inbound queries/complaints makes such a shotgun effort nothing more than the kind of immature tactics that give the SEO industry a bad name.&quot;

Two last points: 

1. You&#039;re assuming that bidding on unrelated keywords is a &quot;shotgun&quot; approach when it may, in reality be the result of many different tests.  Just because &quot;ABC&quot; converts for &quot;XYZ&quot; doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a &#039;shotgun&#039; approach.  

2. Regarding your reference to SEO; I&#039;ve been referring to SEM, or the paid side of search in this case.  SEO is a different ballgame, obviously.  I wouldn&#039;t necessarily put much effort into a longer-term, organic seo campaign given the above examples.  

We can continue the conversation at MIMA&#039;s upcoming summit, assuming you&#039;re going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No legitmate or experienced company marketer would reasonably justify such an approach.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with you Lee.  </p>
<p>Are television commercials directly related to the show during which they appear?  Do outdoor billboards have anything to with where they appear, or what you, as the observer, are currently doing? No&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;What’s short sighted you say? Well, getting a large number of conversions on irrelevant, but high demand keywords usually means a customer service nightmare when products are delivered and they’re not what the customer thought they’d be.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re point is here.  Unless you&#8217;re being completely misleading with your offering, you shouldn&#8217;t have a problem.  </p>
<p>Many commercials that I watch on TV are not relevant to the show I&#8217;m watching.  Say, for example, I&#8217;m watching The Colbert Report and I see a commercial for Geico car insurance &#8212; If I happen to be in the need for car insurance, I may engage with the ad.  If not, I&#8217;ll ignore it.</p>
<p>Likewise, if Geico setup an Adwords campaign and &#8220;Tonight Show&#8221; was one of their keywords &#8211; regardless of whether or not it&#8217;s what a user was searching for &#8211; if it fulfilled a purpose and the user is satisfied, then I don&#8217;t see the problem.  </p>
<p>&#8220;The cost of returns and handling inbound queries/complaints makes such a shotgun effort nothing more than the kind of immature tactics that give the SEO industry a bad name.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two last points: </p>
<p>1. You&#8217;re assuming that bidding on unrelated keywords is a &#8220;shotgun&#8221; approach when it may, in reality be the result of many different tests.  Just because &#8220;ABC&#8221; converts for &#8220;XYZ&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a &#8216;shotgun&#8217; approach.  </p>
<p>2. Regarding your reference to SEO; I&#8217;ve been referring to SEM, or the paid side of search in this case.  SEO is a different ballgame, obviously.  I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily put much effort into a longer-term, organic seo campaign given the above examples.  </p>
<p>We can continue the conversation at MIMA&#8217;s upcoming summit, assuming you&#8217;re going.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/09/online-poker-or-the-marketing-folly-of-using-highly-popular-yet-unrelated-keywords-to-drive-online-traffic/#comment-216543</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes most of my traffic seems to come looking for harry potter porn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes most of my traffic seems to come looking for harry potter porn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/09/online-poker-or-the-marketing-folly-of-using-highly-popular-yet-unrelated-keywords-to-drive-online-traffic/#comment-216323</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CityPages is good for nothing more than glancing at while I&#039;m waiting for my coffee..&quot;  Interesting. I do that with the Wall Street Journal and no one would consider that paper small and un-influential. Of course, I don&#039;t read CityPages either, so it&#039;s a bit of a moot point for me.

Derrick, your comment misses the point of Mike&#039;s post, especially with the spaghetti against the wall observation. No legitmate or experienced company marketer would reasonably justify such an approach.

It&#039;s short sighted to think a conversion is the end of the story, but then again, that&#039;s all an affiliate marketer cares about. 

Mike&#039;s post is not about affiliate marketing. It&#039;s about the marketing of products and services online by the companies that fulfill those orders.

What&#039;s short sighted you say?  Well, getting a large number of conversions on irrelevant, but high demand keywords usually means a customer service nightmare when products are delivered and they&#039;re not what the customer thought they&#039;d be. 

The cost of returns and handling inbound queries/complaints makes such a shotgun effort nothing more than the kind of immature tactics that give the SEO industry a bad name.

Affiliate marketers can afford to be far more experimental and can &quot;get away&quot; with whatever it takes to get conversions because that&#039;s all they&#039;re accountable for. Corporate marketing and lead generation is another matter entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CityPages is good for nothing more than glancing at while I&#8217;m waiting for my coffee..&#8221;  Interesting. I do that with the Wall Street Journal and no one would consider that paper small and un-influential. Of course, I don&#8217;t read CityPages either, so it&#8217;s a bit of a moot point for me.</p>
<p>Derrick, your comment misses the point of Mike&#8217;s post, especially with the spaghetti against the wall observation. No legitmate or experienced company marketer would reasonably justify such an approach.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s short sighted to think a conversion is the end of the story, but then again, that&#8217;s all an affiliate marketer cares about. </p>
<p>Mike&#8217;s post is not about affiliate marketing. It&#8217;s about the marketing of products and services online by the companies that fulfill those orders.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s short sighted you say?  Well, getting a large number of conversions on irrelevant, but high demand keywords usually means a customer service nightmare when products are delivered and they&#8217;re not what the customer thought they&#8217;d be. </p>
<p>The cost of returns and handling inbound queries/complaints makes such a shotgun effort nothing more than the kind of immature tactics that give the SEO industry a bad name.</p>
<p>Affiliate marketers can afford to be far more experimental and can &#8220;get away&#8221; with whatever it takes to get conversions because that&#8217;s all they&#8217;re accountable for. Corporate marketing and lead generation is another matter entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, my entire blog is a lesson in this. So true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, my entire blog is a lesson in this. So true.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. CityPages Large and Influential?  I have to strongly disagree there... I&#039;m from the Twin Cities and the CityPages is good for nothing more than glancing at while I&#039;m waiting for my coffee in the morning. 

2. I do agree with about 95% of the premise of your post... However one of the most successful marketing tactics (amongst mostly affiliate marketers) is obtaining traffic from unrelated keywords to an attempt to see what converts, and what doesn&#039;t.  If it converts - regardless or whether or not its directly related to the search term - then it is a successful campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. CityPages Large and Influential?  I have to strongly disagree there&#8230; I&#8217;m from the Twin Cities and the CityPages is good for nothing more than glancing at while I&#8217;m waiting for my coffee in the morning. </p>
<p>2. I do agree with about 95% of the premise of your post&#8230; However one of the most successful marketing tactics (amongst mostly affiliate marketers) is obtaining traffic from unrelated keywords to an attempt to see what converts, and what doesn&#8217;t.  If it converts &#8211; regardless or whether or not its directly related to the search term &#8211; then it is a successful campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mothner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mothner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great posting because it truly highlights one of the common misconception regarding brining more traffic to your site. I think that the often neglected issue is that the goal is targeted traffic, not just an increase in random visitors to your site who are not in fact looking for what your site has to offer. As Mike explains, the objective is to creatively lure visitors that are searching for the exact product or service that you are able to provide them. If your looking for eventual profit as opposed to an out of control PPC campaign, you need to avoid using unrelated keywords at all costs and instead focus on as site-specific keywords as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great posting because it truly highlights one of the common misconception regarding brining more traffic to your site. I think that the often neglected issue is that the goal is targeted traffic, not just an increase in random visitors to your site who are not in fact looking for what your site has to offer. As Mike explains, the objective is to creatively lure visitors that are searching for the exact product or service that you are able to provide them. If your looking for eventual profit as opposed to an out of control PPC campaign, you need to avoid using unrelated keywords at all costs and instead focus on as site-specific keywords as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/09/online-poker-or-the-marketing-folly-of-using-highly-popular-yet-unrelated-keywords-to-drive-online-traffic/#comment-214220</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Garry, good point and one I discussed with Mike. It&#039;s just his form of humor and not meant to be ironic. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Garry, good point and one I discussed with Mike. It&#8217;s just his form of humor and not meant to be ironic. <img src='http://www.toprankblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Garry Przyklenk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry Przyklenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You realize that sooner or later this post might rank for &quot;porn seo&quot; in the SERPs... That was the plan, wasn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize that sooner or later this post might rank for &#8220;porn seo&#8221; in the SERPs&#8230; That was the plan, wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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