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	<title>Comments on: Search Marketing Tips from Online Marketing Heroes</title>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-468064</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Michael, I made it an anchor text link to avoid formatting issues with our blog. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Michael, I made it an anchor text link to avoid formatting issues with our blog. <img src='http://www.toprankblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-468059</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rishi -- The book is available at most bookstores, or online at Amazon.com. Also can order (via Amazon) from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.molehillgroup.com/online_marketing_heroes.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my website&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rishi &#8212; The book is available at most bookstores, or online at Amazon.com. Also can order (via Amazon) from <a href="http://www.molehillgroup.com/online_marketing_heroes.htm" rel="nofollow">my website</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rishi</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-467981</link>
		<dc:creator>Rishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for such kind of great tips. can i get a copy of this book?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for such kind of great tips. can i get a copy of this book?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-368099</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Michael, and thank you for stopping by. The book is a great resource with varied selection of contributors. The search marketing slant of this post made a few trolls think the only contributors were SEMs, but of course, that is not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Michael, and thank you for stopping by. The book is a great resource with varied selection of contributors. The search marketing slant of this post made a few trolls think the only contributors were SEMs, but of course, that is not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-368087</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I&#039;d log on and add my two cents as the author of the book in question. As several of the participants have mentioned, no one lobbied to be included in the book; I chose the list of interviewees myself. I tried to cover a broad range of marketing activities -- everything from copywriting to search engine marketing to blog marketing to social network marketing to email marketing to online retailing to online PR, and then some. (As I say in the book&#039;s introduction, &quot;marketingis a big tent.&quot;) 

I belive that the value of the book is in the knowledge passed on by the diverse group of interviewees. Even if you profess to know everything about a particular topic, there are a half-dozen other topics that you probably know less about, and can learn something useful. There are even a few interviews, such as the one with Northwestern Universityls Patrick Duparcq, that provide a much more holistic overview to the whole area of online marketing. I went out of my way to make sure that the book offered more than just &quot;the usual suspects,&quot; whomever they might be. 

I urge anyone on the fence to pick up a copy and read a bit before you make up your mind. There&#039;s a lot of good stuff here, from Lee and others!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d log on and add my two cents as the author of the book in question. As several of the participants have mentioned, no one lobbied to be included in the book; I chose the list of interviewees myself. I tried to cover a broad range of marketing activities &#8212; everything from copywriting to search engine marketing to blog marketing to social network marketing to email marketing to online retailing to online PR, and then some. (As I say in the book&#8217;s introduction, &#8220;marketingis a big tent.&#8221;) </p>
<p>I belive that the value of the book is in the knowledge passed on by the diverse group of interviewees. Even if you profess to know everything about a particular topic, there are a half-dozen other topics that you probably know less about, and can learn something useful. There are even a few interviews, such as the one with Northwestern Universityls Patrick Duparcq, that provide a much more holistic overview to the whole area of online marketing. I went out of my way to make sure that the book offered more than just &#8220;the usual suspects,&#8221; whomever they might be. </p>
<p>I urge anyone on the fence to pick up a copy and read a bit before you make up your mind. There&#8217;s a lot of good stuff here, from Lee and others!</p>
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		<title>By: Online markedsføring - lær det af eksperterne</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-366854</link>
		<dc:creator>Online markedsføring - lær det af eksperterne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lee Odden [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Online Marketing Heroes &#124; SEO'Brien - Search &#38; online marketing blog</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-363180</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Marketing Heroes &#124; SEO'Brien - Search &#38; online marketing blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] confess not knowing the illustrious set of folks interviewed as well as Lee so head over to Top Rank for more excerpts. Author Michael Miller though has done a fabulous job aggregating the most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] confess not knowing the illustrious set of folks interviewed as well as Lee so head over to Top Rank for more excerpts. Author Michael Miller though has done a fabulous job aggregating the most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Samual</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-362951</link>
		<dc:creator>Samual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very good information and useful for me thank&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very good information and useful for me thank&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361806</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the author, Michael Miller, contacted each of us individually and asked us to be intereviewed for the book. As far as I know, nobody had any prior knowledge or makes any money off the sale of it.

Not really sure why anyone would be commenting negatively about a decent book of interviews from a diverse group of internet marketers. Buy it or don&#039;t, it&#039;s as simple as that.

Also, not really sure why Doug is allowed to post anywhere but his own forum either, but I guess some blogs and forums allow anyone to post, no matter whether it&#039;s trolling flame bait or not. I guess that&#039;s to be commended in the name of free speech or something, but personally I feel the Internet would be a much nicer/safer place of all the trolls were banned post haste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the author, Michael Miller, contacted each of us individually and asked us to be intereviewed for the book. As far as I know, nobody had any prior knowledge or makes any money off the sale of it.</p>
<p>Not really sure why anyone would be commenting negatively about a decent book of interviews from a diverse group of internet marketers. Buy it or don&#8217;t, it&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
<p>Also, not really sure why Doug is allowed to post anywhere but his own forum either, but I guess some blogs and forums allow anyone to post, no matter whether it&#8217;s trolling flame bait or not. I guess that&#8217;s to be commended in the name of free speech or something, but personally I feel the Internet would be a much nicer/safer place of all the trolls were banned post haste.</p>
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		<title>By: IncrediBILL</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361711</link>
		<dc:creator>IncrediBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam was a little harsh but I know where he&#039;s coming from as it&#039;s just the same old regurgitated content from the same old regurgitaters.

What I find most amusing is Wiley would commit to print what can be found for free on most of the SEO blogs and webmaster forums but I suppose they&#039;ll find a market in the same people that fill the halls of SES/SMX/PubCon year after year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam was a little harsh but I know where he&#8217;s coming from as it&#8217;s just the same old regurgitated content from the same old regurgitaters.</p>
<p>What I find most amusing is Wiley would commit to print what can be found for free on most of the SEO blogs and webmaster forums but I suppose they&#8217;ll find a market in the same people that fill the halls of SES/SMX/PubCon year after year.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361668</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodbye Doug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye Doug.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361667</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lee; I already stated I was sorry. Should I bow down to the almighty Lee Odden as well? OK fine; praise be to you Sir.

I also stated in a prior post that I quoted you wrongly.

Frankly Lee; Your post above is showing your true colors buddy. It&#039;s showing what &quot;many&quot; of us have known for a long time.

I take back my apology now. Thanks for your post.

Kind of funny that I&#039;m the only one posting in your blog who has not linked up his website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lee; I already stated I was sorry. Should I bow down to the almighty Lee Odden as well? OK fine; praise be to you Sir.</p>
<p>I also stated in a prior post that I quoted you wrongly.</p>
<p>Frankly Lee; Your post above is showing your true colors buddy. It&#8217;s showing what &#8220;many&#8221; of us have known for a long time.</p>
<p>I take back my apology now. Thanks for your post.</p>
<p>Kind of funny that I&#8217;m the only one posting in your blog who has not linked up his website.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361654</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The agenda for people disposed to berate others is hardly honorable. Drawing attention to good work by friends stands on it&#039;s own regardless of observations by pessimistic, negative people.

It&#039;s very telling when someone says they&#039;re a marketer with no time to self promote but with plenty of time criticize those that do. 

@Nick Wilsdon, the book &quot;Online Marketing Heroes&quot; is the result of unsolicited inquiries to people the publisher identified to participate in phone interviews. The interviews were transcribed, edited and published.  Nobody in this book pitched Wiley for a book deal.  The people interviewed all have something useful to share and people are free to engage or ignore. 

@Doug Heil One of the great things about blogs, forums and other online information/communication platforms is the opportunity for smart dialogue.  Your initial comment mis-quotes me as saying something about small businesses needing blogs when it was another commenter who said that. Such carelessness only reveals your predisposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The agenda for people disposed to berate others is hardly honorable. Drawing attention to good work by friends stands on it&#8217;s own regardless of observations by pessimistic, negative people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very telling when someone says they&#8217;re a marketer with no time to self promote but with plenty of time criticize those that do. </p>
<p>@Nick Wilsdon, the book &#8220;Online Marketing Heroes&#8221; is the result of unsolicited inquiries to people the publisher identified to participate in phone interviews. The interviews were transcribed, edited and published.  Nobody in this book pitched Wiley for a book deal.  The people interviewed all have something useful to share and people are free to engage or ignore. </p>
<p>@Doug Heil One of the great things about blogs, forums and other online information/communication platforms is the opportunity for smart dialogue.  Your initial comment mis-quotes me as saying something about small businesses needing blogs when it was another commenter who said that. Such carelessness only reveals your predisposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361638</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nick; Your are very right. I shouldn&#039;t post to things like this. I&#039;m sorry. I guess it&#039;s a matter of reading stuff like this all over and biting the tongue on a continuous basis... not saying a word. You get to a tipping point where you can&#039;t hold back anymore. We know there are groups who are constantly promoting out there. Other groups who don&#039;t say one word.

I just don&#039;t have the time to promote like that let alone write a book. Some go to 20 conferences per year. Others are constantly promoting. I don&#039;t know where they all find the time. I&#039;m just a small biz and don&#039;t have employees to do stuff, so I have to do it. I just can&#039;t get away for a week at a time all through the year. Even if I did have time, I wouldn&#039;t be back slapping others in doing so... not my style.

It&#039;s just hard to sit and read places without saying anything, but I&#039;ll do my best to keep my mouth shut in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick; Your are very right. I shouldn&#8217;t post to things like this. I&#8217;m sorry. I guess it&#8217;s a matter of reading stuff like this all over and biting the tongue on a continuous basis&#8230; not saying a word. You get to a tipping point where you can&#8217;t hold back anymore. We know there are groups who are constantly promoting out there. Other groups who don&#8217;t say one word.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t have the time to promote like that let alone write a book. Some go to 20 conferences per year. Others are constantly promoting. I don&#8217;t know where they all find the time. I&#8217;m just a small biz and don&#8217;t have employees to do stuff, so I have to do it. I just can&#8217;t get away for a week at a time all through the year. Even if I did have time, I wouldn&#8217;t be back slapping others in doing so&#8230; not my style.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just hard to sit and read places without saying anything, but I&#8217;ll do my best to keep my mouth shut in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Wilsdon</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361620</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Wilsdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug - I get your point but still don&#039;t see the need to rubbish the efforts of others. 

Book deals aren&#039;t that hard to come by, publishers are pretty open to proposals from the IT sector, especially when they are business orientated. I&#039;ve turned down one inquiry myself - many of my friends have published books and one referred me to their agent.  

I imagine you and the other moderators at IHY have a wealth of knowledge that could be shared with the world? Why not get a book out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug &#8211; I get your point but still don&#8217;t see the need to rubbish the efforts of others. </p>
<p>Book deals aren&#8217;t that hard to come by, publishers are pretty open to proposals from the IT sector, especially when they are business orientated. I&#8217;ve turned down one inquiry myself &#8211; many of my friends have published books and one referred me to their agent.  </p>
<p>I imagine you and the other moderators at IHY have a wealth of knowledge that could be shared with the world? Why not get a book out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361476</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Aussie; the thing is, I and &quot;many&quot; others in OUR industry don&#039;t drink the inner circle koolade as you do and others posting in this thread. I just happen to be one of the very few who speaks and talks our own minds. We don&#039;t need the inner circle lapdogs to speak for us.

Flame me again please. I guess disagreeing with the majority opinion in here is not wanted. I sometimes think that some people seem to actually believe our industry consists of only people in the circle who tout and promote others in that same circle. Let me clue you all in a bit; there are thousands of others out there who could care less about that circle. Social media has made it so it&#039;s now the in thing to self promote, especially if you are a good butt kisser. If you don&#039;t kiss, you are chastised for not joining the circle. And Steve; I don&#039;t need to read this stuff daily like some do as I have my own place with a ton of great people who I learn from daily. Those people don&#039;t see the need to be in this circle either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Aussie; the thing is, I and &#8220;many&#8221; others in OUR industry don&#8217;t drink the inner circle koolade as you do and others posting in this thread. I just happen to be one of the very few who speaks and talks our own minds. We don&#8217;t need the inner circle lapdogs to speak for us.</p>
<p>Flame me again please. I guess disagreeing with the majority opinion in here is not wanted. I sometimes think that some people seem to actually believe our industry consists of only people in the circle who tout and promote others in that same circle. Let me clue you all in a bit; there are thousands of others out there who could care less about that circle. Social media has made it so it&#8217;s now the in thing to self promote, especially if you are a good butt kisser. If you don&#8217;t kiss, you are chastised for not joining the circle. And Steve; I don&#8217;t need to read this stuff daily like some do as I have my own place with a ton of great people who I learn from daily. Those people don&#8217;t see the need to be in this circle either.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361420</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to the success of others there are basically two kinds of folks:

 1) the guys that believe a rising tide floats all boats, and 
 2) the kind that thinks putting someone else down makes them look taller. 

I&#039;ve only had personal dealings with one of the guys in the book so far... and to avoid sounding like a sycophant I won&#039;t toss out a name... but he&#039;s the first type. Glad those are around, it makes the industry a better place. Should be a good book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to the success of others there are basically two kinds of folks:</p>
<p> 1) the guys that believe a rising tide floats all boats, and<br />
 2) the kind that thinks putting someone else down makes them look taller. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only had personal dealings with one of the guys in the book so far&#8230; and to avoid sounding like a sycophant I won&#8217;t toss out a name&#8230; but he&#8217;s the first type. Glad those are around, it makes the industry a better place. Should be a good book.</p>
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		<title>By: AussieWebmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361391</link>
		<dc:creator>AussieWebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job mate.... and the fact that Doug had a derogatory word only solidifies the effort - Doug you need to start a new  approach - I automatically feel the other side has omething valid when you criticize them.... The Doug Heil Seal of Disapproval</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job mate&#8230;. and the fact that Doug had a derogatory word only solidifies the effort &#8211; Doug you need to start a new  approach &#8211; I automatically feel the other side has omething valid when you criticize them&#8230;. The Doug Heil Seal of Disapproval</p>
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		<title>By: Manish Pandey</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361317</link>
		<dc:creator>Manish Pandey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting and informative interview, this would help a  lot of us.</description>
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		<title>By: Stephan Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/02/online-marketing-heroes/#comment-361268</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Sam. A lot started in the same place we are. They are in the club because of that. And any book can teach you something. It&#039;s just a matter of scale and modification. I am reaching for this position and try to keep my sour grapes to myself, knowing that, if only for my future advances, I have to recognize it as jealousy.

And Doug, doesn&#039;t total rejection of an idea close off a part of the openmindness that is needed to keep up to date in an environment that changes daily like the internet. Can&#039;t it close it off enough that we find out a week later that that attitude put us months behind others in our same field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Sam. A lot started in the same place we are. They are in the club because of that. And any book can teach you something. It&#8217;s just a matter of scale and modification. I am reaching for this position and try to keep my sour grapes to myself, knowing that, if only for my future advances, I have to recognize it as jealousy.</p>
<p>And Doug, doesn&#8217;t total rejection of an idea close off a part of the openmindness that is needed to keep up to date in an environment that changes daily like the internet. Can&#8217;t it close it off enough that we find out a week later that that attitude put us months behind others in our same field?</p>
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