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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-488761</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis.  I like Chris G.&#039;s use of the &#039;holistic&#039; term... 

It is a constant issue my free-lance sphere in Paris.  I get approached by potential clients wondering why their </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis.  I like Chris G.&#8217;s use of the &#8216;holistic&#8217; term&#8230; </p>
<p>It is a constant issue my free-lance sphere in Paris.  I get approached by potential clients wondering why their</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Basics: Will Moving or Changing My Site Hurt Rankings? &#124; Online Marketing Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Basics: Will Moving or Changing My Site Hurt Rankings? &#124; Online Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] visibility amongst the list of issues listed above.</description>
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		<title>By: 8 Questions to Ask Before Redesigning your Website</title>
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		<dc:creator>8 Questions to Ask Before Redesigning your Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will the redesign affect my search engine rankings? - Too often, SEO is an afterthought of a website redesign. While SEO is certainly not the only consideration when considering a website overhaul, there are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will the redesign affect my search engine rankings? &#8211; Too often, SEO is an afterthought of a website redesign. While SEO is certainly not the only consideration when considering a website overhaul, there are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Benefits of Research in Internet Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Benefits of Research in Internet Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be altered mid-project in order to meet unforeseen needs or concerns.  Lee Odden posted a great internet marketing article earlier this month where he describes a scenario all too familiar to online marketing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be altered mid-project in order to meet unforeseen needs or concerns.  Lee Odden posted a great internet marketing article earlier this month where he describes a scenario all too familiar to online marketing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-423622</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, thanks very much for the great information.  I was recently brought on board to fix a site where SEO wasn&#039;t considered until years later.  I am a senior developer on a team of four developers at a mid-size property management company.

(Un)Fortunately, I think there will be a site overhaul in the near future.  You have raised excellent points to consider and as an SEO professional, I agree with all of them.  However, do you have any more insight as far as bringing all of the departments together to work as a team on a project like this?  For example, our marketing folks are vicious about branding - how can they be convinced to work with IT hand-in-hand to focus on keywords that will generate the best SEM campaign rather than putting our company name on a page 30 times?  It also seems that everyone has their hand in a piece of the site - at least three senior VPs down to roughly 60 property managers... what would you recommend in terms of bringing all of these people on board?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, thanks very much for the great information.  I was recently brought on board to fix a site where SEO wasn&#8217;t considered until years later.  I am a senior developer on a team of four developers at a mid-size property management company.</p>
<p>(Un)Fortunately, I think there will be a site overhaul in the near future.  You have raised excellent points to consider and as an SEO professional, I agree with all of them.  However, do you have any more insight as far as bringing all of the departments together to work as a team on a project like this?  For example, our marketing folks are vicious about branding &#8211; how can they be convinced to work with IT hand-in-hand to focus on keywords that will generate the best SEM campaign rather than putting our company name on a page 30 times?  It also seems that everyone has their hand in a piece of the site &#8211; at least three senior VPs down to roughly 60 property managers&#8230; what would you recommend in terms of bringing all of these people on board?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Fair</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-410179</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Fair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is that these sort of things happen all the time. I wrote an article called &lt;a href=&quot;http://rfwebstudio.com/rf-web-studio-news/strategies-for-effective-website-sales-%e2%80%93-a-guide-for-professionals-who-sell-web-development-services/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Strategies for effective website sales – a guide for professionals who sell web development services&lt;/a&gt; that might be helpful to keep AM on track. It will have to be adopted for SEO, since it is written for development sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is that these sort of things happen all the time. I wrote an article called <a href="http://rfwebstudio.com/rf-web-studio-news/strategies-for-effective-website-sales-%e2%80%93-a-guide-for-professionals-who-sell-web-development-services/" rel="nofollow">Strategies for effective website sales – a guide for professionals who sell web development services</a> that might be helpful to keep AM on track. It will have to be adopted for SEO, since it is written for development sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaz</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-407242</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thread guys! This has been very useful but at the same time will give me sleepless nights.

I have recently been employed by a company who are already in the final stages of a site redesign. My skills revolve around PPC but I do have a little knowledge of SEO and am very aware of how important it is to incorporate SEO within a site redesign. Within the next couple of weeks one of the web designers is coming into our office to answer any questions we have about the progress of the resdesign. This is my chance to find out exactly how much SEO effort they have put in when working on the design. I obviously have a stack of questions I want to ask but feel my lack of specialism in SEO may mean I miss something vital.

Although I have noted all the info throughout this thread, could anybody out there possibly post, say, the &#039;top 10&#039; SEO questions I should ask our web developer when he visits. Bullet points would be great but feel free to go into as much detail as poss. Any info would be much appreciated and I promise I will post any feedback from the meeting on here. It&#039;ll definitely be interesting to hear if the web developers have been wearing their SEO hats. My fear is that they have not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thread guys! This has been very useful but at the same time will give me sleepless nights.</p>
<p>I have recently been employed by a company who are already in the final stages of a site redesign. My skills revolve around PPC but I do have a little knowledge of SEO and am very aware of how important it is to incorporate SEO within a site redesign. Within the next couple of weeks one of the web designers is coming into our office to answer any questions we have about the progress of the resdesign. This is my chance to find out exactly how much SEO effort they have put in when working on the design. I obviously have a stack of questions I want to ask but feel my lack of specialism in SEO may mean I miss something vital.</p>
<p>Although I have noted all the info throughout this thread, could anybody out there possibly post, say, the &#8216;top 10&#8242; SEO questions I should ask our web developer when he visits. Bullet points would be great but feel free to go into as much detail as poss. Any info would be much appreciated and I promise I will post any feedback from the meeting on here. It&#8217;ll definitely be interesting to hear if the web developers have been wearing their SEO hats. My fear is that they have not!</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Bingham</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403816</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy Bingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for some reason, it is easier for management teams to get external seo involved earlier in the dev stages of a new site than it is to get internal seo involved. good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for some reason, it is easier for management teams to get external seo involved earlier in the dev stages of a new site than it is to get internal seo involved. good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 07:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lee,

I have definitely been in that position before while I did work for Adobe.  One day they decided to change all of their URL&#039;s from a keyword rich proper url to something completely different (e.g. store1 instead of adobe), just destroyed their rankings.

Enterprise clients and AM&#039;s really need to have an open line of communication about such things and perhaps it can start with some in house training to make sure clients understand what can and does affect seo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lee,</p>
<p>I have definitely been in that position before while I did work for Adobe.  One day they decided to change all of their URL&#8217;s from a keyword rich proper url to something completely different (e.g. store1 instead of adobe), just destroyed their rankings.</p>
<p>Enterprise clients and AM&#8217;s really need to have an open line of communication about such things and perhaps it can start with some in house training to make sure clients understand what can and does affect seo.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzaffer</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403563</link>
		<dc:creator>Muzaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do agree with you that before designing a site one must consult a SEO expert to build it serach engine optimized compressing images (using few images only) keeping balanced text words liked by serach engines, placing rich keywords having more seraches but less websites,using h1 and h2 tahs and much more to get placed higher and higher in serach engine results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do agree with you that before designing a site one must consult a SEO expert to build it serach engine optimized compressing images (using few images only) keeping balanced text words liked by serach engines, placing rich keywords having more seraches but less websites,using h1 and h2 tahs and much more to get placed higher and higher in serach engine results.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403489</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John, you never know who&#039;s lurking :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John, you never know who&#8217;s lurking <img src='http://www.toprankblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Leach</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403472</link>
		<dc:creator>John Leach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee I think that site owners believe the SEO industry can simply sprinkle magic fairy powder over a finished site but as we all know that&#039;s not so - good article, just a shame it is reaching more of the converted rather than those who are unaware. John Leach, Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee I think that site owners believe the SEO industry can simply sprinkle magic fairy powder over a finished site but as we all know that&#8217;s not so &#8211; good article, just a shame it is reaching more of the converted rather than those who are unaware. John Leach, Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyrmont</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403461</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyrmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in this very painful and expensive situation at the moment and to make matters worse, my developer did something very stupid with the robots.txt file, and I lost my place in the serps for my major keyword.

My external SEO consultant is providing me with a report to fix the HOLE, we are in....God I am So Angry...!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in this very painful and expensive situation at the moment and to make matters worse, my developer did something very stupid with the robots.txt file, and I lost my place in the serps for my major keyword.</p>
<p>My external SEO consultant is providing me with a report to fix the HOLE, we are in&#8230;.God I am So Angry&#8230;!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-403397</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do a lot of redesign for clients.  It really is amazing how much work goes into a proper redesign of a site.  All of the old info has to be redirected... if it&#039;s not done correctly the first time around then you could lose the rankings all together.  

Many business owners do not realize this at all... they just lose all of the ranking-juice if they don&#039;t take the proper precautions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do a lot of redesign for clients.  It really is amazing how much work goes into a proper redesign of a site.  All of the old info has to be redirected&#8230; if it&#8217;s not done correctly the first time around then you could lose the rankings all together.  </p>
<p>Many business owners do not realize this at all&#8230; they just lose all of the ranking-juice if they don&#8217;t take the proper precautions.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-402607</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Excellent Blog - I really appreciate your blog about Site Re-Design? Call Your SEO Expert First!, I have bookmarked it for later viewing and forwarded it on. 

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Excellent Blog &#8211; I really appreciate your blog about Site Re-Design? Call Your SEO Expert First!, I have bookmarked it for later viewing and forwarded it on. </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G.</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-402413</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently published a post like this on our blog as well. This is fairly commonplace because of the lack of holistic web companies - companies that have the knowledge and the people to marry usability, SEO, and quality web design. I feel the industry shifting to this holistic business model and those not already on board with it are in for some very interesting times. 

I&#039;m not saying everyone should take this stance, but if you are a SEO firm or a design agency or a marketing company you should be asking about other players in the game when it comes time for a redesign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently published a post like this on our blog as well. This is fairly commonplace because of the lack of holistic web companies &#8211; companies that have the knowledge and the people to marry usability, SEO, and quality web design. I feel the industry shifting to this holistic business model and those not already on board with it are in for some very interesting times. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying everyone should take this stance, but if you are a SEO firm or a design agency or a marketing company you should be asking about other players in the game when it comes time for a redesign.</p>
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		<title>By: Brick Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-402358</link>
		<dc:creator>Brick Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very important topic. Creative teams need to keep their SEO contacts in the loop when going through a site design. You can&#039;t get angry at us after you have spent all this money making your site pretty and we tell you to go back and rebuild it. It is important for clients to develop that sense of trust so that we can guide them in the right directions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very important topic. Creative teams need to keep their SEO contacts in the loop when going through a site design. You can&#8217;t get angry at us after you have spent all this money making your site pretty and we tell you to go back and rebuild it. It is important for clients to develop that sense of trust so that we can guide them in the right directions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-402342</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my Favorite Quotes page:
http://danperry.com/wordpress/online-marketing-quotes/

“SEO is a marketing function for sure, but it needs to be baked into a product, not slapped on like icing after the cake is baked.”

Duane Forrester</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my Favorite Quotes page:<br />
<a href="http://danperry.com/wordpress/online-marketing-quotes/" rel="nofollow">http://danperry.com/wordpress/online-marketing-quotes/</a></p>
<p>“SEO is a marketing function for sure, but it needs to be baked into a product, not slapped on like icing after the cake is baked.”</p>
<p>Duane Forrester</p>
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		<title>By: Ela</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-402197</link>
		<dc:creator>Ela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 08:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Than you for an excellent article. I think that this &quot;ignorant&quot; attitude of web developers to SEO is changing now but it will take a while when SEO professionals will be invited to a web design and development project from the very beginning. 

Clients are more aware of SEO nowadays but still not too sure when SEO implementation should start. Before or after a new webite is launched...
Education is a key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Than you for an excellent article. I think that this &#8220;ignorant&#8221; attitude of web developers to SEO is changing now but it will take a while when SEO professionals will be invited to a web design and development project from the very beginning. </p>
<p>Clients are more aware of SEO nowadays but still not too sure when SEO implementation should start. Before or after a new webite is launched&#8230;<br />
Education is a key.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2008/05/site-redesign-seo/#comment-402141</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 03:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I read these articles, the less surprised that I am to see the web developers blamed for these types of things. Just like I said on another site... as a web developer who made the less-than-graceful transition into SEO, if these teams don&#039;t start connecting both ends of the spectrum, they have no reason to be surprised when everything falls apart.

The bottom line, really, is that web development is about the client bringing the project to the developer, explaining what issues must be addressed, and leaving it up to the developer to create the most efficient and functional solution fo that project. If the client doesn&#039;t bring up SEO, then what? If the client doesn&#039;t seek out a web developer who makes use of seo-friendly practices, then what? 

I just have to wonder what kind of set ups these people have where they would think that one element of the website shouldn&#039;t correspond with the other element of the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read these articles, the less surprised that I am to see the web developers blamed for these types of things. Just like I said on another site&#8230; as a web developer who made the less-than-graceful transition into SEO, if these teams don&#8217;t start connecting both ends of the spectrum, they have no reason to be surprised when everything falls apart.</p>
<p>The bottom line, really, is that web development is about the client bringing the project to the developer, explaining what issues must be addressed, and leaving it up to the developer to create the most efficient and functional solution fo that project. If the client doesn&#8217;t bring up SEO, then what? If the client doesn&#8217;t seek out a web developer who makes use of seo-friendly practices, then what? </p>
<p>I just have to wonder what kind of set ups these people have where they would think that one element of the website shouldn&#8217;t correspond with the other element of the website.</p>
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