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		<title>By: maxdeal</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537833</link>
		<dc:creator>maxdeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: edson1</title>
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		<dc:creator>edson1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting subject.</p>
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		<title>By: David Kitchenham</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537388</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kitchenham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, this is an topic of debate at our organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, this is an topic of debate at our organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Noble</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537347</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I&#039;d like to contribute to the &quot;new&quot; metrics that are of value. In addition to some others, I like these:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Viral Spread – In how many places, and how diverse, can your marketing message/app/link be found?&lt;br&gt;Inoculation Speed – How soon after posting the message/app/link/video etc. did it spread to other communities and users?&lt;br&gt;Brand Reputation Score - What is the sentiment about the brand? Breakdown of sentiment within each source. IE sentiment could be higher on facebook versus an independent blog with bias.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.padennoble.com/solutions/social-media-monitoring-your-web-2-0-brand/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.padennoble.com/solutions/social-medi...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I&#39;d like to contribute to the &#8220;new&#8221; metrics that are of value. In addition to some others, I like these:</p>
<p>Viral Spread – In how many places, and how diverse, can your marketing message/app/link be found?<br />Inoculation Speed – How soon after posting the message/app/link/video etc. did it spread to other communities and users?<br />Brand Reputation Score &#8211; What is the sentiment about the brand? Breakdown of sentiment within each source. IE sentiment could be higher on facebook versus an independent blog with bias.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.padennoble.com/solutions/social-media-monitoring-your-web-2-0-brand/" rel="nofollow">http://www.padennoble.com/solutions/social-medi&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: KDPaine</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537320</link>
		<dc:creator>KDPaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who want more information on measuring social media, we have a new white paper that should be posted to our website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kdpaine.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.kdpaine.com&lt;/a&gt; on Monday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who want more information on measuring social media, we have a new white paper that should be posted to our website <a href="http://www.kdpaine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kdpaine.com</a> on Monday</p>
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		<title>By: leeodden</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537250</link>
		<dc:creator>leeodden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link to the dashboard Rasmus, it&#039;s very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link to the dashboard Rasmus, it&#39;s very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: seoservicescompany</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537241</link>
		<dc:creator>seoservicescompany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here are Top 8 Techniques to Make Your Newly Developed Blog Successful&lt;br&gt;1) Make Difference&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Blog Design and Theme&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Share More Advertise Less&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4) Write for People not for Search Engines&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5) Listen to Readers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6) Arrange Contests&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7) Create Community&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;8) Stay Up to date</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here are Top 8 Techniques to Make Your Newly Developed Blog Successful<br />1) Make Difference</p>
<p>2) Blog Design and Theme</p>
<p>3) Share More Advertise Less</p>
<p>4) Write for People not for Search Engines</p>
<p>5) Listen to Readers</p>
<p>6) Arrange Contests</p>
<p>7) Create Community</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.toprankblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Stay Up to date</p>
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		<title>By: karenrayner</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537239</link>
		<dc:creator>karenrayner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, well summerized</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, well summerized</p>
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		<title>By: goutamsathia</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537237</link>
		<dc:creator>goutamsathia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Post... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, Social Media Marketing ROI is still at its recknowing feats... This need to be standardized by social media regulatory council before the client actually starts getting pinched on the marketing currency getting wasted in experimental SMM...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Post&#8230; </p>
<p>However, Social Media Marketing ROI is still at its recknowing feats&#8230; This need to be standardized by social media regulatory council before the client actually starts getting pinched on the marketing currency getting wasted in experimental SMM&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Loring Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537234</link>
		<dc:creator>Loring Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summary!  Can you please expand on #6 &quot;Obey the Rules.&quot; This was great for those of us PRSAers who couldn&#039;t get to this year&#039;s conference. Now what is the book or website we can give to CLIENTS/EMPLOYERS to educate them about what results look like when they aren&#039;t ad equivalencies! Would appreciate suggestions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great summary!  Can you please expand on #6 &#8220;Obey the Rules.&#8221; This was great for those of us PRSAers who couldn&#39;t get to this year&#39;s conference. Now what is the book or website we can give to CLIENTS/EMPLOYERS to educate them about what results look like when they aren&#39;t ad equivalencies! Would appreciate suggestions!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537230</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standard ROI measurements do not compute when measuring the effectiveness of social media and its impact to an organization. Those days are over. i.e. Red Cross judges success in terms of property saved and loss averted, success is in the engagement with a particular audience and how that engagement has the potential to impact a preset objective....amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard ROI measurements do not compute when measuring the effectiveness of social media and its impact to an organization. Those days are over. i.e. Red Cross judges success in terms of property saved and loss averted, success is in the engagement with a particular audience and how that engagement has the potential to impact a preset objective&#8230;.amen.</p>
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		<title>By: MAS</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537223</link>
		<dc:creator>MAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wicked Cool Stats!&lt;br /&gt;Metrics are all about measuring real results.  These statistics outline some new ways to think about what actually are &#039;real results.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks very much for sharing all these figures.&lt;br /&gt;MAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wicked Cool Stats!<br />Metrics are all about measuring real results.  These statistics outline some new ways to think about what actually are &#39;real results.&#39;</p>
<p>Thanks very much for sharing all these figures.<br />MAS</p>
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		<title>By: montaznehise</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537222</link>
		<dc:creator>montaznehise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article on brands leveraging social media to drive a positive ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article on brands leveraging social media to drive a positive ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Anne Miller   </title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537221</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Anne Miller   </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! What KD is saying here is profound, and she&#039;s explained it better than anyone else to-date. (No surprise here). Some further thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.Re the engagement metric, minutes spent and return visits on blogs will become increasingly sought after metrics. I never quite understood the old &quot;hits&quot; metrics anyway. Who cares if a huge number of people visit your blog, if they&#039;re only spending 10 sec there? You need quality of engagement - over 2 minutes - I believe - before the visits are meaningful. And certainly before anyone has time to click to an ad. How many visitors are spending greater than 15 minutes? 45? Those are the new gold standard metrics. And what about return visitation? Those are your fans / fanatics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. I think we&#039;re going to see this year even more of a push to separate B2B and B2C rules of engagement for social media. The environment is MUCH more challenging in B2B than B2C.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.Frankly, I&#039;m surprised Walmart credited their profitability that directly to the Walmart 11 Moms. Lots of questions from some of the Moms and others about how they were treated - everyone made bucks off those women except themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! What KD is saying here is profound, and she&#39;s explained it better than anyone else to-date. (No surprise here). Some further thoughts:</p>
<p>1.Re the engagement metric, minutes spent and return visits on blogs will become increasingly sought after metrics. I never quite understood the old &#8220;hits&#8221; metrics anyway. Who cares if a huge number of people visit your blog, if they&#39;re only spending 10 sec there? You need quality of engagement &#8211; over 2 minutes &#8211; I believe &#8211; before the visits are meaningful. And certainly before anyone has time to click to an ad. How many visitors are spending greater than 15 minutes? 45? Those are the new gold standard metrics. And what about return visitation? Those are your fans / fanatics.</p>
<p>2. I think we&#39;re going to see this year even more of a push to separate B2B and B2C rules of engagement for social media. The environment is MUCH more challenging in B2B than B2C.</p>
<p>3.Frankly, I&#39;m surprised Walmart credited their profitability that directly to the Walmart 11 Moms. Lots of questions from some of the Moms and others about how they were treated &#8211; everyone made bucks off those women except themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Parks</title>
		<link>http://www.toprankblog.com/2009/11/social-media-measurement/#comment-537220</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ROI issue in social media is still a pretty heated debate with both camps swinging between It can or it cannot be measured effectively.  Personally I think its a specific question.  What do you want or need to achieve.  ROI is not always a sale and can be considered so much more now and via a completely different process.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OLD:  Awareness &gt; Consideration &gt; Preference &gt; Trial &gt; Purchase&lt;br&gt;NEW:  Find &gt; Observe &gt; Participate &gt; Engagement &gt; Purchase/Act/Link/WOM&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This in particular has got me thinking about a range of different processes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ROI issue in social media is still a pretty heated debate with both camps swinging between It can or it cannot be measured effectively.  Personally I think its a specific question.  What do you want or need to achieve.  ROI is not always a sale and can be considered so much more now and via a completely different process.  </p>
<p>OLD:  Awareness &gt; Consideration &gt; Preference &gt; Trial &gt; Purchase<br />NEW:  Find &gt; Observe &gt; Participate &gt; Engagement &gt; Purchase/Act/Link/WOM</p>
<p>This in particular has got me thinking about a range of different processes.</p>
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